Topic: Limit on Donor

Just curious if anyone knows what the limit is on how many families can get pregnant using the same donor?

Thanks.

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I "think" it's 8 families. I could be wrong but that's the number sticking out in my head. There are 6 families that I know of with Bs donor, including ours.

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I was emailing back and for w someone from NW last week and I believe they told me 20 pregnancies per donor.

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Wow 20 is the highest number I've heard so far.  That seems like a lot.  Thanks for sharing ladies!

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Yeah 20 seems so high... When I was in the process of chosing a donor I remember one of my choices on here had 13+ babies. That was a deal breaker for me even though I fell in love with his profile...But having said that I truely believe my donor is the one that was meant for me.  smile

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At least 35? That is an insane number!!!  20 is better, but I initially thought 12 was a lot when I first heard that number.  I was liking the possibility of 8 that Cocobay had mentioned.

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I wonder if it even is something they can track accurately as reporting a pregnancy/birth seems optional for NW.

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The number of families and the number of pregnancies may be different.  4 of those pregnancies could all be from the same person/family so don't get too alarmed if it is higher than you like.  On that note, I am not sure exactly how many families or pregnancies per donor NW allows now, when we first registered with them in 09 we didn't think to ask and right now we aren't actively TTC and not sure we will again.

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It's absolutely 10.  A max of 10 families with reported pregnancies from Northwest. 

That said, if there are unreported pregnancies, those don't count.  Multiple kids per family don't count.

I asked what happens when they reach 10 if there are still vials in stock - they pull them out of stock and keep them available to those families, or use them for research.

Northwest is a stickler about it too, from what I understand. smile

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It's kind of relief that they are as strict as they can be about it.  There's a bank I looked into first, and one donor has in the hundreds...according to some of the women who used him and have done the math on it.  That's just too many!

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Yep, I was told 10 families as well. It's impossible to track and I imagine for every 10 that report there is another 5 out there who don't. In my donor group we have 9 families (16 kids), one of which we know didn't report. There is also the possibility of pregnancy loss after reporting which would also impact final numbers.

There are many things I love about NW and this is one of them. They are one of the strictest out there. Many limit per population - like 1 per every 200,000 people per geographic area. How on earth can you reliably track that!? I have an online friend whose donor group has over 70 offspring...and thats just counting those who are within the online group!

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I had thought they said ten too, but in our donor group of people we know about we have 11 separate families. Our donor is no longer available because he left the program. They said if he comes back they don't have enough staff to contact us, so he'll just be put back on the website - that tells me that the 10 may not be their number. So then I was thinking, and I remember reading it was 20, but then around 10-15 families, they limit the vials to only for siblings. Though if they did that we'd all be very happy too, because I know a number of us are just looking to buy more vials.

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I'm not sure of the exact number right now but our donor has 8 babies so far that we know of across 7 different families. I'm positive there are more kids out there though. As far as I know our donor got each one of these people pregnant their first cycle and another donor baby just popped up in the registry the other day. I doubt 10 families is their limit.

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10 families sure does make me feel better -- even if its not always 10 families.  I can only imagine that it would be incredibly difficult to always limit it to 10.  What if 10 families report, but several other individuals still have vials of that donor and subsequently become pregnant.  But, the fact that they monitor it is comforting.

As for reporting pregnancies, I thought (I may be wrong) that it was required under the contract.  Although, I guess it would be very hard for them to enforce it.

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On February 5th, I had a very long conversation with Tammy. I asked about the donor family limit and what their limit was. She explained that the overall "guideline" for all sperm banks is 25 pregnancies/800,000 people. She said they feel that ratio is too high so they have a lower limit for their business. She did not tell me what that limit is.

Right now, there are 12 known babies from our donor (11 families - one has a set of twins). So 10 is definitely not the number and apparently they don't have an exact number. Our donor stopped donating because he moved AND because he was getting close to that limit they have. However, if vials of his should become available for whatever reason, they would not contact donor families (I asked! lol) - they would just suddenly appear on the website.

I imagine it is safe to assume that they deal with 10-15 confirmed pregnancies/families and take into account that there are an average # of pregnancies per donor that no one reports. I suppose there are statistics for that.

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I would assume they could only limit the number of families and not the number of babies per family.  That would mean if they reached the magic number they would have to tell families who planned to have more kids that they couldn't have donor siblings.  I don't think that would fly!

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Funny I thought it was more like 25 kids. The ownership changed in the past few years too, right? So maybe their guidelines changed.  And it's true that probably at least half are never reported to Northwest, and another 1/4 probably do not join the sibling registry.

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Don't forget that regardless of liits set by NW, different banks or the industry in general until they do something to stop these men from donating to mutiple banks there really is no way of controling the donor population.  They need a national database that all of these men are in for life.

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I'm glad to hear it's 10 families. I know some other banks will allow tons of families that equals LOTS of kids!! I know there are always those who don't submit pregnancies until the last minute or decide not to do it at all. That could really throw off numbers.

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Good Afternoon,

NW Cryobank limits the total number of births for any donor.  Our decision is based on the following criteria.

1. When 25 family units (children from the same donor living in one home) have been reported, specimens from that particular donor will be restricted and offered only to family units with a child(ren) by the same donor.

2. If the total number of vials sold reaches our internally designated limit (actual numbers are not disclosed), the donor will be exited from the program.

We also monitor the reported location of births and limit the geographic distribution of a donor consistent with the guideline of the American Society of Reproductive Medicine (ASRM).

In order to help us monitor the number of births associated with any donor, it is important that everyone be diligent in reporting their pregnancies.  https://www.nwcryobank.com/report-a-pregnancy/.  Remember, this is not an option, but rather it is a requirement and is something agreed to in the contract.  We remain one of the few Cryobanks in the country allowing sperm to be sent directly to the home without use of a medical provider.  We would not want that to change due to the fact that pregnancies are not being reported.  We really need your help with this.

If a donor has reached his maximum limits on family units or total sales, then reactivation of that donor may be available for sibling pregnancies. Reactivation means that a donor can be asked to provide additional samples after he has left the program. The donor must first agree to be reactivated and if he does the client agrees to pay all costs which typically exceed several thousand dollars.

One last note, none of our donors have over 20 reported pregnancies.

I hope this helps,

Tammy Zimmer
Managing Director

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nwcryo wrote:

Good Afternoon,

NW Cryobank limits the total number of births for any donor.  Our decision is based on the following criteria.

If a donor has reached his maximum limits on family units or total sales, then reactivation of that donor may be available for sibling pregnancies. Reactivation means that a donor can be asked to provide additional samples after he has left the program. The donor must first agree to be reactivated and if he does the client agrees to pay all costs which typically exceed several thousand dollars.

One last note, none of our donors have over 20 reported pregnancies.

I hope this helps,

Tammy Zimmer
Managing Director


So why is the donor only asked to provide additional samples under these circumstances. I remember specifically calling and asking about this when we were TTCing #2 and wanted a full bio sibling and our donor was sold out. I was told there was no way NW contacted the donor. I even made it clear we would pay thousand of dollars if needed. I mean its pretty much moot at this point because I am pregnant by a different donor. But it doesn't make sense??

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@cocobay

I know that my situation is a different experience but I'll tell you anyways smile. We contacted NW to see if our donor would be willing to release a baby photo, they stated that they contacted him, and he declined to provide one. I also offered to pay any necessary fees for the photo but again he chose not to release it. I'm sure they have to contact them in order to tell them when to come back for blood work and things of that nature too. Sorry your going threw this but I'm sure Baby 2.0 will be just as wonderful as B.

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