(64 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

So sorry...


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Hi I am 27 almost 28 weeks pregnant and I used 410Z and another donor also, so I won’t know until baby is born and I see his blood type to know if it was possibly 410z.
There is one other couple pregnant but they haven’t posted updates they were behind me by a few weeks. All else has been quiet about this donor.


(64 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)


I surged 2 days earlier with clomid too! Fingers crossed for you two!

My doctor said the same thing that its better for sperm to be waiting for that egg.
He even said with the trigger I could ovulate within 12 hrs or later at 36. I always wonder about the age thing. When I was 32 and charting it seemed like I was ovulating within 24hrs.
Anyway, Your timings sound great.
Keep us updated. Fingers crossed for you.

Hi @lesrmh

Like a true pcos person I have more follicles without clomid but none big enough (some on each side).  I only had one dominant follicle when on clomid. One baby. 4 inseminations that lucky cycle. 
I inseminated 12 hr before trigger -I probably wouldn't ever repeat that one.
Another 12 hr post trigger - I stuck it in the cervix but not a true iui -catheter wouldn't go in uterus so I gave up and dispensed in cervix (iui sperm)  lol
A true iui 24 hrs post trigger- got it in the uterus so I was happy.
And another ici 33 hrs post trigger-
If I had it to do again with 3 vials I just would do the 12, 24, and 33.
If I had it to do again and just two vials ici ,I would do 6 and 18.
If I had it to do again and one iui  vial, I would do an iui at 24.
If I had it to do again and one ici vial, I would do an ici at 18-20 hrs.


(16 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

410Z worked the first time but I miscarried.
at the time I worried that it was timing, sperm quality, or the fact that sperm was frozen -read about fractures in DNA due to freezing...
Anyway I just was at the point I wanted a baby that would make it. In the meantime my doctor was making me wait a few cycles to test me.
8843 had multiple reported pregnancies with healthy babies actually born and really high sperm counts like 40milliom for iui sperm versus the standard 10 that doctors like it at. It was starting to really make me wonder about a positive pregnancy with 410Z that was healthy. It had worked for me the first time but I miscarried. No one else posted about him at the time. When I bought the first vials (410z) for my first TTC attempt he had no pregnancies then I got pregnant and then his status changed to positive pregnancy-someone other than me.
Someone else on the forum pointed out that you don’t know if these pregnancies continue or how it’s achieved...for ivf quality/mobility doesn’t matter as much.
I bought two vials of 8843.
Then my testing results came in, and it looked like the problem was all me- I didn’t ovulate strong enough and I have some weird clotting stuff too potentially.
I looked at 410Z again and he only had two vials left. I had originally liked his profile. Knowing the problem was me I looked at his extended profile and liked it even more. I went ahead and bought the last two vials left.
I was just going to use two vials one of each and then changed my mind and decided to use them all. I decided to go big or go home.
As for using from two different donors...my background is in biology( I was in grad school for molecular biology)
I figured survival of the fittest. When I explained that to my genentic counselor she didn’t bat an eye.
8843 was my insurance policy because of his high sperm count.
I will figure it out when the baby is born which donor won. If he’s AB or B then it’s obvious it’s 8843. Any other blood type and I have to run more DNA to be sure.
Since I found out gender early, it’s the only mystery left besides meeting my sweet baby.
(My mom didn’t like my decision of using two donors in one cycle, but I stopped caring what she thinks a long long  time ago. Lol)


(64 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

That AF. Sorry hun.

ordinarily yes....in the if sense of if you need things completely by the book...
I might know someone wanting to unload theirs. She had been trying for three years and clomid made the difference for her. She is about 16 weeks now.

PM me on FB, or I can email you-if that works better (if you and your wife are interested).

Clomid made the difference for me too it helps select for the best egg and in a way protects you from miscarriage by boosting your progesterone levels during the TWW. The only side effects I had were being witch and feeling ovulation stronger.  Anyway, some doctors will prescribe a few months of it  and then move on to trouble shooting more stuff.


(64 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

I’m sorry @2Hopefulmommies maybe there will be a surprise though.
If not have you all considered moving on with some assistance from clomid? I’m really pulling for you two.

Hi Kat,
I ovulated on my own-they tested my day CD 21 progesterone.  I actually get pregnant fairly easily but miscarried each time(until clomid) My day CD 12 ultrasound showed my dominant follicle wasn’t big enough. They like it to be at least 20mm mine was like 14mm (or somewhere around there )So my doctor thought egg maturation from correct follicle size might be part of why I was miscarrying. He gave me the clomid to give me a boost. I did 50mg cd 3-7. Cd 12 ultrasound showed a 23mm follicle. He gave me the trigger and I went home and inseminated. I just noticed the ovulationpain more intense with the clomid.

It came with syringes one per vial. Make sure to add to your cart when checking out with your sperm.
The softcups I got from amazon.
I did my own iui -getting all that stuff was a pain...
If you want a speculum you can get from amazon or midwife supply. Sterile catheters  I got from a vet supply company.


(2 replies, posted in Pregnancy and Babies)

Im not sure which donor is actually the genetic contributor to my little boy. But if it’s one of the donors-he’s sold out and retired.
If it’s the other donor I have a chance to buy more vials.
I figure in a few years if I really want a sibling but they aren’t full genetic siblings because of vial availability, then that’s okay.

I feel ovulation pains the cramping leading up to ovulation but when I really feel it (strongly) it’s one sided pain the radiates down my back. They were a lot stronger on clomid,(which I needed to conceive a viable pregnancy).


(4 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

You can practice with preseed or saline. Basically just stuff that’s wont upset your vagina.
I used a softcup too with each insemination. I didn’t try the stork so I have no advice there. If I had two vials I would to 12 and 24hr inseminations. If I only had one probably 24 hr. I just spent a lot on sperm to cover the window. But if I do it again I might just try with one vial at a time at 24 hours.
Best of luck in whatever you decide. :-)


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Yes!!!!!! :-)


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Thanks @tealbow
Thanks all!
@reednakita - I use tiny pic
Just put tiny pic into your url and it will come up load your pics and copy and paste the code
@2hopefulmommies - me too! If it’s 8843 he’s almost out so I’ll hope one of you will end up having a dibling for him!


(64 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

@ 2hopefulmommies

Fingers crossed that you don’t need them and this cycle works! What timing are you going for this time?


(8 replies, posted in Pregnancy and Babies)

This is from the anatomy scan last week. My previa has shifted to being a low lying placenta. Baby boy is in the 52nd percentile which is where my doctor wants him. He weighed a pound at 21 weeks 1 day. There is a concern with some clots they are watching(in my placenta) , but my doctor assures me there is a lot of reserve in the placenta. I am really glad my doctor and I decided to do the lovenox injections. I still won't start putting the nursery together until viability. My doctor told me my only job was to chill out. Another scan at 24 weeks.


Here is an awkward bathroom selfie. I have had a lot of weight gain but am resolved to eat healthy and keep up walking, yoga, and swimming over the summer. (School is almost out! )



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Congrats! I had a feeling you’re having a girl. <3


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A loss at this point for you is less than 1%. Take a deep breath you will be okay.
The anxiety doesn’t go away necessarily I’m afraid it does and can become less intense. If you are feeling flutters that’s great. I think it’s okay to trust in the process and trust your body. Even if it’s just a mantra you say and done feel or mean yet.
Try meditation or some prenatal yoga.
I had a meltdown at work today and I nearly started crying in front of my kids and it wasn’t until my doctor called me that I settled down. (Usually it’s the nurses but it was him today.)  And the kid is kicking me hard but I still worry. The anxiety is from here until there’s a baby in yours arms to throughout  your child’s life.
I use the Doppler when I feel anxious and it’s a security blanket. I also work on breathing deeply. Relaxing music seems to help in general.
I’ll also  take an epsom salt  bath with  a little lavender oil  and try to relax.
You will be okay. Congratulations you are almost half way there :-)


(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

On to the next cycle. At least you have two vials ready to go...
I will keep you updated.


(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

It's good so far.... I just had to put the kid on a waiting list for daycare for district employees (I am a teacher) for the 2019-2020 school year this next school year is already full. It makes me really nervous to do something like that when I don't have a baby in my arms yet....  Anatomy scan this Tuesday. Fingers crossed for me that the placenta has moved up.
I had a clear negative the day before my positive....I hope tomorrow brings good news.
The temps being up is exciting. My fingers crossed it stays up and you all get a BFP in the morning.


(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

@2hopefulmommies- I think I see something.
I have ridiculously good eyesight...
I have my fingers crossed for you two....
Frer or in a few days it should be darker......
@heyjudemommy -  I hope that line gets darker!


(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

Try again with FMU. It's not over till AF shows.
Hoping for a BFP for you two.


(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

I wouldn't worry about that one temp. I think they usually look for a rise 5 or 6 days post ovulations. Anyway... inseminating with those ovulation pains is a wonderful sign. Fingers crossed for you two. I don't think I know of people who get the ovulation pain with out ovulating.


(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

It is possible to peak and not ovulate.
That was happening to my sister in law and brother. They would see the peak from the OPK but discovered at the doctor that her progesterone showed she wasn't ovulating.

The reason the app couldn't tell was the drop in the last temp. It could however be a difference in sleep pattern. 7 to 10 days after she ovulated or you all think she ovulated you can get a progesterone test. If it is low it means she didn't ovulate. It should be at least 10 I believe.
If she isn't ovulating a lot of people respond to clomid.


(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

Don't trust the cross hairs on ovulation.
This was my bfp cycle. Notice the cross hairs are different from actual ovulation. My actual ovulation is in green the purple cross hairs are what the app calculated.
I would't stress about her chart I think it still looks very promising. Keep her tummy warm and try to keep her relaxed.



(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

I think the ovulation pains were a great sign. When were the ovulation pains compared to insemination timings?
At least the silver lining is that you have two vials for next month ready to go.
I will have fingers crossed for you! This donor has had really high counts on IUI sperm and it only takes one to get in!


(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

I’ve never gotten a dip after I peak/ surge.
I’ve gotten a dip before my peak/surge but then just a climb in temp post ovulation. Temping is frustrating and so much can affect temps (sleeping less, mouth breathing, etc) that I wouldn’t let it freak you out. Redheather is totally right about having the egg there first. Babydust! My fingers are crossed! Keep us updated!


(33 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

I think someone else said that happened to them and to call and it was like $15 a day. It wasn’t a big deal but to let them know.


(2 replies, posted in Pregnancy and Babies)

Here is an update on my sweet baby boy. 
This was him at 16weeks 4 days. All seems well as far as his growth. They told me then that he already weighed 1/2 pound.  I do have placenta previa so I have been on restrictions. My perinatologist is pretty sure my uterus will grow and it will move up.  I was also told I will be induced at 38 weeks for my lovenox injections. His big anatomy scan is in May 15th.

Here is his little hand!


Wishing happy sticky BFPs to all!


(1 replies, posted in Pregnancy and Babies)

Hi! Congratulations!
I sold back 241R because I was too scared to use him after reading about all the miscarriages and chemicals from him.
Keep us updated on your baby! Excited to know the gender.
I won't know for some time if mine is from 8843 or 410Z. September if we can tell from blood type or later until I can get a good swab off of him!  If our donor is indeed 410Z I'd love to keep in touch. :-) Diblings! lol


(2 replies, posted in Pregnancy and Babies)

Very excited and happy for you!


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You are welcome!  You are so lucky!  I have to work to be thin and I have a muscular build. I can still see the some of my ab indention even though my tummy sticks out. Waiting for that to dissappear. lol I am not thin now lol. I am thin when I eat real healthy veggies, fruits, no dairy, and no bread and exercise semi regularly. Obviously, that is out the window (eliminating dairy and bread) while pregnant, so I am fat and pregnant right now. lol .
My dad's eyes are hazelly green and mine are brown. I am hoping my son's might be hazel or green. My son will be named after my dad so it would be cool if his eyes looked more like my dad's eyes. I have curly hair dark brown with ringlets, so I imagine his hair will still be kind of curly too. lol. My brother's hair isn't as curly as mine and his wife has straight hair and their kids have curly hair so far ( they are still real little). Fun to think about what he will look like if 8843 is indeed the donor. lol.


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Liquid Nitrogen stores at temps lower than -80 degrees Celsius(Where we stored a lot of samples we were working on in terms of immediately or for the 4-6 years of being in grad school) .  For liquid nitrogen all biological activity is pretty much stopped. Indefinitely. Liquid nitrogen is much lower temps like -196 degrees Celsius.

( I used to be in grad school for molecular biology) There was no expiration date on our samples once in liquid nitrogen assuming no thawing from lack of it. I wouldn't worry about shelf life as long as the liquid nitrogen levels had been maintained.
We were dealing with cell cultures and biological stocks of cells and antibodies that from a research perspective were liquid gold. Someone's entire Phd education could be ruined if that stuff didn't store. I thought about buying more vials and asking one of the professor's to store them because they don't take much space but I don't want to rely on other grad students to maintain liquid nitrogen levels and I worry about my professor retiring or forgetting about my samples or grad students letting liquid nitrogen levels get too low.

Relax your vials are fine. Wishing you a bfp.


(20 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

I am short as well. 5'3". Since I am having a boy I am hoping for his family's taller genes. (If he is the lucky donor lol) One of my brothers is 5'9" the other is 6'0".

Sibling Physical Characteristics
Brother: 1
Eye Color: Blue

Original Hair Color: Light Brown

Height: 5' 9"

Weight (approx.): 140 lbs

Complexion relative to race: Medium

Sister 1
Eye Color: Blue

Original Hair Color: Red

Height: 5' 9"

Weight (approx.): 135 lbs

Complexion relative to race: Fair

Sister 2
Eye Color: Hazel

Original Hair Color: Brown

Height: 5' 8"

Weight (approx.): 125 lbs

Complexion relative to race: Fair


(16 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

Hey all,  here was my timing if that helps. I ovulated on the 30th of December and my tank came in on the CD 10 (12/27) and I had sent it before Christmas so it had been out 6 or 7 days ( I sent it early not to avoid not getting it in time due to Christmas and weather) . I used 1 8843 ici vial CD 11  (10PM)
CD 12 (8am) I got the trigger
and CD 13 I ovulated (I think -felt one sided  back pain ) 36 hours post trigger was not before 24 hours-temp hadn’t risen) I had used my last ici 8843 vial at CD 13 (33 hours post trigger).
I usually ovulate within 24 hours of surge but I think using the trigger pushed it to 36 hours. **i think ** I felt twinges and ovary pain 12 and 24 hours too. I’m very sensitive apparently.

Important to note**** I also did ici 12 hours post trigger and iui about 24 hours post trigger with 410Z.
Babydust! Wishing you all bfps!


(10 replies, posted in Pregnancy and Babies)

@reednakita You're welcome!
I felt very pregnant before this bfp too at the time I thought it might just be trigger and progesterone. But hindsight I think my boobs hurt worse.  Fingers crossed that this is a bfp and a sticky bean for you.  I didn't get a + until 11 dpo. At 10 dpo it was negative and I cried a lot. lol.
I was planning on changing donors from both donors (just to clean the slate) if the cycle that resulted in this bfp had not worked and taking a few months to save and to contemplate.
Not sure why everything is all quiet on this donor. He sells out and plenty of people buy his vials. 8843 was my ace in the hole due to his high sperm count and healthy term pregnancies. Wishing you baby dust. Hope this is your BFP!


(6 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

pulled this off the website:

"NW Cryobank has taken steps to resolve concerns regarding the number of live births per sperm donor. The maximum goal is 25-30 family units worldwide per donor. Each donor is limited by the length of time he remains active in the program. NWC also limits the total number of vials distributed and monitors pregnancy and birth reports to help maintain this goal."


(6 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

Some other banks cut off at 10 families. I’m not sure which ones.
Even with the cut off that there are still women that might sell what they had in storage later allowing for more than the cut off.


(6 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

I believe the cut off is 25. I don’t know how they get there though. Some people don’t report their pregnancies.


(10 replies, posted in Pregnancy and Babies)

Thank you @reednakita

I used two donors. I used 2 ICI vials of 8843 and 2 IUI vials of 410Z. I am not sure which one took. When the baby is born, if he is AB or B then 8843 worked. If he is A or O I won't know for sure until doing some genetic testing.


(16 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

Hope this is it for you. What a good deal!

Yes, lol, For sure.

I might be able to figure it out with blood type. If the baby is AB or B, then I know for sure it is 8843. I am A+. If baby is O or A, then still could be either donor. Unfortunately, I don't know if I am homozygous A or heterozygous and we don't have that info on the donors either. So...DNA to the rescue! lol


(16 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

I really want you to get your bfp.
I used 2 vials - ICI -8843
And 2 vials IUI - 410Z- did iui with his cause it was all he had left.

I am 16 1/2 weeks but I don’t know which donor won the race! Lol. Could be 8843 or might not.
I am not a carrier for 8843 and his one recessive disorder.

Also to note -I probably couldn’t carry a successful pregnancy without a better ovulation from Clomid.
Also I got pregnant the first try with 410Z but miscarried. Later with investigation we figured out it was most likely me not the sperm.


(2 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

Hi hun,

Glad you are getting your surge again. Is it possible you peaked or early or late when you weren't testing? Every now and then there's a woman that does peak but the urine test doesn't pick it up before it's gone. They call it false negatives.

Clomid can be tricky. My doctor had me take clomid (50mg) days 3-5. We didn't rely on finding the peak. I was scheduled for an transvaginal ultrasound day 12 to evaluate the follicles. The follicle was the perfect size. The nurse gave me the hcg trigger (Pregnyl-10000units) in my right arm. Within 36 hours later I ovulated. I went home and inseminated according to my planned timings)
He told me he really preferred to work clomid with the trigger (he likes them as a package deal). If my follicle hadn't been the right size I wouldn't have gotten the trigger. Anyway, it was the lucky month for a bfp.

-I had a bigger(right size follicle on clomid) I didn't get multiple follicles like some women do.
- had many multiple follicles without it but only one was close enough to being the right size and still not the proper size to release a mature egg.

I think I took Maca and vitex in the months I wasn't taking clomid to help regulate hormones without clomid. One month I had the proper day 14 ovulation, but I didn't TTC so who know if it would've worked.


(5 replies, posted in Pregnancy and Babies)

Thank you all! :-) - Also got the bloodwork back. I am having a little boy!!!


(26 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

I would also like to join. I am 13 weeks pregnant with a NW donor and am hoping to continue with a healthy term pregnancy. I have been pregnant twice before this but those pregnancies ended early in miscarriage. I am hoping to be a SMBC as this would be my first child. I am from northern Texas.



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So I had my nuchal scan done. Baby looks great and was squirming around. Also....although a little preliminary....It's a boy!!! I am over the moon. Having a healthy pregnancy last this long feels like a dream come true on a long journey. He was also measuring a little ahead at 13w1d. I do have a subchorionic bleed to watch but it seems so small(2.75cm)my perinatologist said just take it easy and don't worry since I am not actually having any vaginal bleeding.
Gender will be confirmed with a blood test as I wanted to be as informed as possible on genetic concerns.




(5 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

They give you two weeks at ovulation, which is why they measure my your last menstrual period. From the last menstrual period they tack on 280 days. That is how those classic pregnancy wheels work. If your periods are irregular they may use ultrasound to date you and give you a due date. My OB uses the last menstrual date and then compares it to an early ultrasound for measurement. With later ultrasounds the baby moves or grows and measures ahead making dating more difficult.
My due date coincides with my first ultrasound and my last menstrual period. If I go by my ovulation then my due date would be two days before the due date I got from my OB.
In the end it doesn't really matter they just use it to date you.
Even if you know when you inseminated and are pretty sure when you ovulate there is still a day or two fluctuation based on the fact that of the egg sitting there for 12 hours or so or the fact that implantation of the embryo are different among different women.
People that undergo IVF are the only ones that the doctor knows 100% their conception date. I believe they just add 266 to the date of transfer.
The embryo and later fetus has measurements it should be based on how many weeks it is.
It is just a system to standardize measurement to track embryonic/fetal growth.
At 12 weeks my baby measures a five days ahead. That could differ among ultrasound techs too and the fact that they (fetuses) squirm. lol
Best of luck! Congrats!


(32 replies, posted in Trying to Conceive)

Wonderful update! A boy and a girl! How perfect!