A loss at this point for you is less than 1%. Take a deep breath you will be okay.
The anxiety doesn’t go away necessarily I’m afraid it does and can become less intense. If you are feeling flutters that’s great. I think it’s okay to trust in the process and trust your body. Even if it’s just a mantra you say and done feel or mean yet.
Try meditation or some prenatal yoga.
I had a meltdown at work today and I nearly started crying in front of my kids and it wasn’t until my doctor called me that I settled down. (Usually it’s the nurses but it was him today.) And the kid is kicking me hard but I still worry. The anxiety is from here until there’s a baby in yours arms to throughout your child’s life.
I use the Doppler when I feel anxious and it’s a security blanket. I also work on breathing deeply. Relaxing music seems to help in general.
I’ll also take an epsom salt bath with a little lavender oil and try to relax.
You will be okay. Congratulations you are almost half way there :-)
A loss at this point for you is less than 1%. Take a deep breath you will be okay.
On to the next cycle. At least you have two vials ready to go...
I will keep you updated.
It's good so far.... I just had to put the kid on a waiting list for daycare for district employees (I am a teacher) for the 2019-2020 school year this next school year is already full. It makes me really nervous to do something like that when I don't have a baby in my arms yet.... Anatomy scan this Tuesday. Fingers crossed for me that the placenta has moved up.
I had a clear negative the day before my positive....I hope tomorrow brings good news.
The temps being up is exciting. My fingers crossed it stays up and you all get a BFP in the morning.
@2hopefulmommies- I think I see something.
I have ridiculously good eyesight...
I have my fingers crossed for you two....
Frer or in a few days it should be darker......
@heyjudemommy - I hope that line gets darker!
Try again with FMU. It's not over till AF shows.
Hoping for a BFP for you two.
I wouldn't worry about that one temp. I think they usually look for a rise 5 or 6 days post ovulations. Anyway... inseminating with those ovulation pains is a wonderful sign. Fingers crossed for you two. I don't think I know of people who get the ovulation pain with out ovulating.
It is possible to peak and not ovulate.
That was happening to my sister in law and brother. They would see the peak from the OPK but discovered at the doctor that her progesterone showed she wasn't ovulating.
The reason the app couldn't tell was the drop in the last temp. It could however be a difference in sleep pattern. 7 to 10 days after she ovulated or you all think she ovulated you can get a progesterone test. If it is low it means she didn't ovulate. It should be at least 10 I believe.
If she isn't ovulating a lot of people respond to clomid.
Don't trust the cross hairs on ovulation.
This was my bfp cycle. Notice the cross hairs are different from actual ovulation. My actual ovulation is in green the purple cross hairs are what the app calculated.
I would't stress about her chart I think it still looks very promising. Keep her tummy warm and try to keep her relaxed.
I think the ovulation pains were a great sign. When were the ovulation pains compared to insemination timings?
At least the silver lining is that you have two vials for next month ready to go.
I will have fingers crossed for you! This donor has had really high counts on IUI sperm and it only takes one to get in!
I’ve never gotten a dip after I peak/ surge.
I’ve gotten a dip before my peak/surge but then just a climb in temp post ovulation. Temping is frustrating and so much can affect temps (sleeping less, mouth breathing, etc) that I wouldn’t let it freak you out. Redheather is totally right about having the egg there first. Babydust! My fingers are crossed! Keep us updated!
I think someone else said that happened to them and to call and it was like $15 a day. It wasn’t a big deal but to let them know.
Here is an update on my sweet baby boy.
This was him at 16weeks 4 days. All seems well as far as his growth. They told me then that he already weighed 1/2 pound. I do have placenta previa so I have been on restrictions. My perinatologist is pretty sure my uterus will grow and it will move up. I was also told I will be induced at 38 weeks for my lovenox injections. His big anatomy scan is in May 15th.
Here is his little hand!
Wishing happy sticky BFPs to all!
I sold back 241R because I was too scared to use him after reading about all the miscarriages and chemicals from him.
Keep us updated on your baby! Excited to know the gender.
I won't know for some time if mine is from 8843 or 410Z. September if we can tell from blood type or later until I can get a good swab off of him! If our donor is indeed 410Z I'd love to keep in touch. :-) Diblings! lol
Very excited and happy for you!
You are welcome! You are so lucky! I have to work to be thin and I have a muscular build. I can still see the some of my ab indention even though my tummy sticks out. Waiting for that to dissappear. lol I am not thin now lol. I am thin when I eat real healthy veggies, fruits, no dairy, and no bread and exercise semi regularly. Obviously, that is out the window (eliminating dairy and bread) while pregnant, so I am fat and pregnant right now. lol .
My dad's eyes are hazelly green and mine are brown. I am hoping my son's might be hazel or green. My son will be named after my dad so it would be cool if his eyes looked more like my dad's eyes. I have curly hair dark brown with ringlets, so I imagine his hair will still be kind of curly too. lol. My brother's hair isn't as curly as mine and his wife has straight hair and their kids have curly hair so far ( they are still real little). Fun to think about what he will look like if 8843 is indeed the donor. lol.
Liquid Nitrogen stores at temps lower than -80 degrees Celsius(Where we stored a lot of samples we were working on in terms of immediately or for the 4-6 years of being in grad school) . For liquid nitrogen all biological activity is pretty much stopped. Indefinitely. Liquid nitrogen is much lower temps like -196 degrees Celsius.
( I used to be in grad school for molecular biology) There was no expiration date on our samples once in liquid nitrogen assuming no thawing from lack of it. I wouldn't worry about shelf life as long as the liquid nitrogen levels had been maintained.
We were dealing with cell cultures and biological stocks of cells and antibodies that from a research perspective were liquid gold. Someone's entire Phd education could be ruined if that stuff didn't store. I thought about buying more vials and asking one of the professor's to store them because they don't take much space but I don't want to rely on other grad students to maintain liquid nitrogen levels and I worry about my professor retiring or forgetting about my samples or grad students letting liquid nitrogen levels get too low.
Relax your vials are fine. Wishing you a bfp.
I am short as well. 5'3". Since I am having a boy I am hoping for his family's taller genes. (If he is the lucky donor lol) One of my brothers is 5'9" the other is 6'0".
Sibling Physical Characteristics
Eye Color: Blue
Original Hair Color: Light Brown
Height: 5' 9"
Weight (approx.): 140 lbs
Complexion relative to race: Medium
Eye Color: Blue
Original Hair Color: Red
Height: 5' 9"
Weight (approx.): 135 lbs
Complexion relative to race: Fair
Eye Color: Hazel
Original Hair Color: Brown
Height: 5' 8"
Weight (approx.): 125 lbs
Complexion relative to race: Fair
Hey all, here was my timing if that helps. I ovulated on the 30th of December and my tank came in on the CD 10 (12/27) and I had sent it before Christmas so it had been out 6 or 7 days ( I sent it early not to avoid not getting it in time due to Christmas and weather) . I used 1 8843 ici vial CD 11 (10PM)
CD 12 (8am) I got the trigger
and CD 13 I ovulated (I think -felt one sided back pain ) 36 hours post trigger was not before 24 hours-temp hadn’t risen) I had used my last ici 8843 vial at CD 13 (33 hours post trigger).
I usually ovulate within 24 hours of surge but I think using the trigger pushed it to 36 hours. **i think ** I felt twinges and ovary pain 12 and 24 hours too. I’m very sensitive apparently.
Important to note**** I also did ici 12 hours post trigger and iui about 24 hours post trigger with 410Z.
Babydust! Wishing you all bfps!
@reednakita You're welcome!
I felt very pregnant before this bfp too at the time I thought it might just be trigger and progesterone. But hindsight I think my boobs hurt worse. Fingers crossed that this is a bfp and a sticky bean for you. I didn't get a + until 11 dpo. At 10 dpo it was negative and I cried a lot. lol.
I was planning on changing donors from both donors (just to clean the slate) if the cycle that resulted in this bfp had not worked and taking a few months to save and to contemplate.
Not sure why everything is all quiet on this donor. He sells out and plenty of people buy his vials. 8843 was my ace in the hole due to his high sperm count and healthy term pregnancies. Wishing you baby dust. Hope this is your BFP!
pulled this off the website:
"NW Cryobank has taken steps to resolve concerns regarding the number of live births per sperm donor. The maximum goal is 25-30 family units worldwide per donor. Each donor is limited by the length of time he remains active in the program. NWC also limits the total number of vials distributed and monitors pregnancy and birth reports to help maintain this goal."
Some other banks cut off at 10 families. I’m not sure which ones.
Even with the cut off that there are still women that might sell what they had in storage later allowing for more than the cut off.
I believe the cut off is 25. I don’t know how they get there though. Some people don’t report their pregnancies.
Thank you @reednakita
I used two donors. I used 2 ICI vials of 8843 and 2 IUI vials of 410Z. I am not sure which one took. When the baby is born, if he is AB or B then 8843 worked. If he is A or O I won't know for sure until doing some genetic testing.
Hope this is it for you. What a good deal!
Yes, lol, For sure.
I might be able to figure it out with blood type. If the baby is AB or B, then I know for sure it is 8843. I am A+. If baby is O or A, then still could be either donor. Unfortunately, I don't know if I am homozygous A or heterozygous and we don't have that info on the donors either. So...DNA to the rescue! lol
I really want you to get your bfp.
I used 2 vials - ICI -8843
And 2 vials IUI - 410Z- did iui with his cause it was all he had left.
I am 16 1/2 weeks but I don’t know which donor won the race! Lol. Could be 8843 or might not.
I am not a carrier for 8843 and his one recessive disorder.
Also to note -I probably couldn’t carry a successful pregnancy without a better ovulation from Clomid.
Also I got pregnant the first try with 410Z but miscarried. Later with investigation we figured out it was most likely me not the sperm.
Glad you are getting your surge again. Is it possible you peaked or early or late when you weren't testing? Every now and then there's a woman that does peak but the urine test doesn't pick it up before it's gone. They call it false negatives.
Clomid can be tricky. My doctor had me take clomid (50mg) days 3-5. We didn't rely on finding the peak. I was scheduled for an transvaginal ultrasound day 12 to evaluate the follicles. The follicle was the perfect size. The nurse gave me the hcg trigger (Pregnyl-10000units) in my right arm. Within 36 hours later I ovulated. I went home and inseminated according to my planned timings)
He told me he really preferred to work clomid with the trigger (he likes them as a package deal). If my follicle hadn't been the right size I wouldn't have gotten the trigger. Anyway, it was the lucky month for a bfp.
-I had a bigger(right size follicle on clomid) I didn't get multiple follicles like some women do.
- had many multiple follicles without it but only one was close enough to being the right size and still not the proper size to release a mature egg.
I think I took Maca and vitex in the months I wasn't taking clomid to help regulate hormones without clomid. One month I had the proper day 14 ovulation, but I didn't TTC so who know if it would've worked.
Thank you all! :-) - Also got the bloodwork back. I am having a little boy!!!
I would also like to join. I am 13 weeks pregnant with a NW donor and am hoping to continue with a healthy term pregnancy. I have been pregnant twice before this but those pregnancies ended early in miscarriage. I am hoping to be a SMBC as this would be my first child. I am from northern Texas.
So I had my nuchal scan done. Baby looks great and was squirming around. Also....although a little preliminary....It's a boy!!! I am over the moon. Having a healthy pregnancy last this long feels like a dream come true on a long journey. He was also measuring a little ahead at 13w1d. I do have a subchorionic bleed to watch but it seems so small(2.75cm)my perinatologist said just take it easy and don't worry since I am not actually having any vaginal bleeding.
Gender will be confirmed with a blood test as I wanted to be as informed as possible on genetic concerns.
They give you two weeks at ovulation, which is why they measure my your last menstrual period. From the last menstrual period they tack on 280 days. That is how those classic pregnancy wheels work. If your periods are irregular they may use ultrasound to date you and give you a due date. My OB uses the last menstrual date and then compares it to an early ultrasound for measurement. With later ultrasounds the baby moves or grows and measures ahead making dating more difficult.
My due date coincides with my first ultrasound and my last menstrual period. If I go by my ovulation then my due date would be two days before the due date I got from my OB.
In the end it doesn't really matter they just use it to date you.
Even if you know when you inseminated and are pretty sure when you ovulate there is still a day or two fluctuation based on the fact that of the egg sitting there for 12 hours or so or the fact that implantation of the embryo are different among different women.
People that undergo IVF are the only ones that the doctor knows 100% their conception date. I believe they just add 266 to the date of transfer.
The embryo and later fetus has measurements it should be based on how many weeks it is.
It is just a system to standardize measurement to track embryonic/fetal growth.
At 12 weeks my baby measures a five days ahead. That could differ among ultrasound techs too and the fact that they (fetuses) squirm. lol
Best of luck! Congrats!
Wonderful update! A boy and a girl! How perfect!
Hope it all ends up being nothing and baby is fine. There should be a gestational sac by now. In one pregnancy at 5weeks and 5 days I had a heartbeat already. Maybe they can offer you an ultrasound for more reassurance and progesterone if you aren't already supplementing with it. It can be messy but the vaginal one really is absorbed better.
This is so exciting! Donor siblings! :-)
I think I remember having some cramps before I tested where I thought I was out cause they seemed like AF.
Test again with a FRER. I think one pregnancy I had a really faint + on blue dye test 11 dpo in the evening. Next day it was clear on FRER.
Thank you @tealbow
I just noticed your siggy. Congrats!!! So happy for you. Sending good vibes! :-)
Fingers crossed for you! I hope this is a sticky BFP that will result in a healthy baby!
My doctor won't even do Betas cause they can be so unreliable and cause anxiety. Try not to worry :-)
What a wonderful success story. Congrats!!!
IUI is a beating. I did it at home and spent a month gathering stuff for it. Lactated ringers, speculum, sterile gloves, sterile gauze, sterile catheters etc.
I only did it also last time because it was the only vials left for that donor and I wasn't going to lose most of the count just getting past my cervix. I was also starting meds and worried about hostile cervical mucus.
I think ICI is better without meds than IUI. ICI will live longer than IUI. Your timing has to be pretty spot on for an IUI insemination. Meds can make for hostile cervical mucus and lining issues. With that being said, I needed the meds personally for a better ovulation. Meds can also help control timing for IUI.
I had a natural cycle with a bfp and ICI inseminations. Ended in miscarriage. I did do Maca. It is an adaptogen and helps regulate hormones.
General rule of thumb on insemination. It is better if sperm is waiting for the egg. After the egg is released the surface starts changing within hours to become more hostile to sperm. (Making it harder for their heads to breakthrough barrier and release DNA).
So far so good. Yes that was the bean at the 8 week appointment. It was a super milestone for me as I had never made it that far before. My doctor said risk of miscarriage was less than 3% at that time.
Nausea has been terrible. I just put on sea bands yesterday and they seem to have helped.
Next appointment is not for another two weeks. So just trying to take it easy and not stress.
So much patience. Patience in TTC, in tww, and then pregnancy itself. I think I might be growing as a person. lol.
Sending you good vibes! Baby dust!
You had cramps and EWCM that is really important. Maybe possible. Temping helps to confirm ovulation. But I would just try not to worry and relax for the tww and write down everything you did. Hopefully it will work and you won't need your notes. If not you could try to make modifications for future attempts. Baby dust! I hope the end of two weeks bring you a bfp.
My doctor would encourage you that literature suggests it is really better to have sperm waiting for the egg.
ICI estimates are that they live 12-24hours (conservatively). They might live longer the potency they say drops off after 12 hours.
It sounds like you know what you should do. The choice you can live with.
My unmedicated bfp cycle I tested at 7am + and really dark not beginning of surge but was pretty sure I might have had a + test during the night at like 2am or something while I was asleep. By that evening my surge was gone. I was drinking a lot of water due to summer time heat in Texas (August) . Usually it(surge) sticks around at least 24 hours on the strips but not that time.
I went ahead and inseminated two hours later (OPK) for the first time. Then again 6 hours later I think and again 8 hours after that. I had ovulation pains during that time but then the next day too I believe.
I got pregnant but miscarried not really because of insemination timing (My doctor insisted timing was fine) but because of follicle maturity and possible clotting issues I am 95% confident that that was the reason. In short sperm seemed to not be problem.